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Group Lead: Saddle Mountain Rider
Created: Aug 09, 2008
Members: 350

A group for horse people who are interested in learning more about riding the trails or would like to share experiences and practical knowledge of trail riding.


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Posted By Donna Taylor
on December 29, 2011, 8:25 pm
Hi - I'm new to this site and group! I used to compete in barrel racing but now my family likes to trail ride. We just finished our first few events with the American Competitive Trail Horse Association (ACTHA) and we're hooked! We love to head out on our own for a weekend of trails but the ACTHA people that we've met are a really fun group. Our two sons (10 and 12 yrs) are getting a lot out of it and learning to work with their horse. Anyone else out there competing in ACTHA? Oh, and I've learned how to do the cowboy Dutch oven cooking over hot coals if anyone wants a few fool proof recipes!

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Posted By Saddle Mountain Rider
on August 11, 2008, 5:20 am
What do you trail riders think about horses wearing performance boots on the trail?

Comment By Rick Gore
on September 29, 2008, 4:30 pm

I don't wear them for a few reasons. The horses in with wild don't wear them, they collect stickers and other debris and they get caught up on more things. In an arena you are moving and controlling your horse's movement much more, you are asking for speed, direction changes and faster stops. This can cause a horse to overstep, cross step or catch a hoof, so boots are more practical. On the trial, your horse is not, or maybe should not be running at a full trot on blind trails or unknown footing, so since they are using their instincts more and in a more natural setting, I think the boots are not needed.

Comment By Chelsea White
on October 11, 2008, 3:36 am

I use Splint boots that are smooth on the outside when I trail ride my TB, after a long career of racing, he has thick tendons, so I always protect him in front. I keep it very simple on the trail compared to working him in the arena.

Comment By boots foster
on November 16, 2008, 7:31 pm

Our horses are barefoot. A healthy Morgan typically has great feet, so the only time we shoe is when my brother in law goes hunting up north. I DO NOT have any interest in hunting grizzlies and moose, so I stay home to care for the herd. The ground is very rocky there, so its pretty necessary. But he takes the shoes off when they return south. haha, south as in central Alberta :)

Comment By Tina King
on December 30, 2008, 12:39 am

The only time I used boots on trail was on a young horse that was going through a stage of overstepping. He had done quite a bit of cosmetic damage to the backs of his pasterns that I didn't need the public ridicule and questioning. It is something that I would stay away from if possible if you are going to step off of a path. You just never know what twigs can get shoved up inside the boot. It is not likely but it seems that kind of stuff happens to our most invaluable horses.

just a lucky shot i promise i didnt teach them to pose (:
Comment By Sara Bing
on February 15, 2010, 2:40 pm

I used to be against them because my old horse ad very tough feet. But my new mare was half starved and very malnourished it cause her feet to grow weird and on one of her front feet she does have any definition to her frog. We live In TN where it is soft and not rocky but we trail ride at Natchez Trace and Land Between the Lakes in KY where it is very rocky. Because of her weird foot she can't have shoes and she has very sensitive feet so we now have performance boots. They work very well. We used Old Mac's and they don't rub or create sores.

Montana, the Mighty
Posted By Lori Sorg
on December 7, 2009, 8:47 pm
The woods were lit up. Suddenly, Montana haults, head high, ears forward, motionless. I can't see a thing in the shadows. I urge him on, and he moves forward, relaxed again. Soon we are back in the open field, where our shadow stretches across the grassy hill. Full moon rides are wonderful.

Posted By Leslie B
on February 18, 2009, 9:28 am
I went on my first trial ride in November. I have a 3 year old mustang who is usually well behaved. When we arrivied he was overwhelmed by the other horses. We started off in the back, then as the day progressed we got closer to the front. When other horses would come up behind us or on the side of us he would get very nervous and try to kick them or bite them. He didn't hurt anyone or really come into contact with the other horses but I know someone could have really been hurt. My next trail ride is in April. Do you have any suggestions to help me control him or get him over his fear? I did put a red ribbion in his tail but that didn't seem to keep people away.

At home he is always picked on by the other horses. Could this be one reason he's afraid of new horses?

Comment By Country Girlforever
on October 7, 2009, 12:25 pm

Yes it could be, if they are pick on the tend to try and keep the other horses away

Montana, the Mighty
Comment By Lori Sorg
on November 9, 2009, 4:10 pm

My horse does the picking-on, and he acts the same way. He lays his ears back and will kick know matter what horse it is. I'm looking forward to some tips, myself.

Comment By Lea-Ann Riepert
on December 4, 2009, 4:46 pm

My 16 year old son has raised his filly since she was 8 months old, and now at almost 4 years old she has become what I call a "trail brat" - With horses that she knows are lower on the herd rung then she is, she'll go at them in a trail ride... ears back, teeth bared and when that fails, she'll begin to back up and prepare to kick... This is brand new behaviour for her and we've witnessed it on the last three rides... Now here's the same advice I have given my son to get this nasty behaviour under control -

Any time the horse even makes an attempt to go at another horse on a trail ride or displays even a small notion of doing so... run one hand down your rein (the opposite rein to the side the "victim" is on) and turn your horse away from the group moving him off to the side of the trails and proceed to do tight circels with him/her in both directions... make your horse move his feet, but a little hustle in him/her and when you feel the horse's focus is back on you, return back to the trail ride...

Your horse WILL go at another horse again, and you will do exactly the same thing each time - take him away from the group and get his feet hustling in circles... What you are doing is making the wrong behaviour difficult and the right behaviour easy... your horse will soon learn that if he even "thinks" he'd like to kick or bite another horse on a trail ride, he's going to have to hustle those feet and work... the reward for not biting and kicking is that he/she doesn't have to work as hard!

Hope this helps!
Annie

Montana, the Mighty
Comment By Lori Sorg
on December 7, 2009, 8:21 pm

Thank you!

Posted By Jayme Duncan
on July 8, 2009, 4:32 pm
Hey all! I live in BC Canada, and riding is a part of my job! We own a few cows and we have to put them out on range every summer. I rmember the first time I rode through all the trees, dips, blow down and...mountains, and creeks...I was scared to pieces...I had come from the prairies and it was SO different! But now I just love it. I like getting in thick bush and having to rely on my horse to get me out, just lean down and go. Most of the trails we go on, definatly arnt marked out. You make the trail. We have to be careful for bears and we usually ride together and keep talking, sometimes we will attatch bells on the horse. But out here you cant take a cell phone if something goes wrong...it wont work! We use any excuse we can to get out on our horses and go for a ride! The horses like exploring just as much as we do!

Comment By Lea-Ann Riepert
on December 4, 2009, 4:19 pm

Hey Jayme and others... Can we talk about bears and trail riding?

Our family lives in Southern, Ontario and we're moving to a rural wilderness property in New Brunswick this Spring... there's evidence of bear scat on our property, and our friend saw a bear on the road when he drove out to visit the property in October... We're avid trail riders, but have yet to take our horses to NB... Can you give us advice for trail riding in bear country? Any stories on your encounters and how horses generally react to bears, wolves, coyotes, etc, etc, etc?

Thank you kindly,
Annie

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Posted By Eileen Van Goor
on January 4, 2009, 8:40 am
I am 43 and new to riding. My daughter has been riding since she was 9 she's now 20 and had a year of college in horsemanship. She has been training me since last summer, problem is, she works of course and we don't have an indoor arena. Our pasture has been very iciy this winter and its hard to get around. My mare hasn't been used much in the past year, we bought her from a woman moving out west. How can I start to train out doors with little knowlege. I am used to handling her, but she does get spooked easily and has some separation anxiety when she leaves sight of my other horse,( who by the way has the worst anxiety!- I will get to him another day). I want to learn how to handle horses without always having to rely on my daughter, alot of time is wasted. Any ideas?

Comment By boots foster
on January 7, 2009, 6:45 pm

Hi Eileen.

I know how you feel, sometimes I wish I had more riding time with my young mare, as I really don't take her out without another rider along. What I do however, is take her for long walks. Just her and I. This really helps with her anxiety with moving out and away from the herd, and it has shown her that I'm her friend, and she trusts me. Maybe just try with short walks, just out of eye sight of her buddies, then gradually taking her for longer walks. if you can get yourself a set of long reins, you can ground drive her. That is a very good thing for a green horse, and a lot safer for you to be doing alone. You can teach her to move forward, stop, turn. if she panics, just drop one rein, and you have her on a longe. I'd not be too concerned with spending so much time on her back when it's icy. Ice is bad for horses, they can slip and fall, and if you're on them..you go down too. Not fun. Spend time grooming her, picking her feet up, tacking her up, sacking her out, these are all good things to do with your horse even when you can't ride.

Jily

Posted By Chelsea White
on October 19, 2008, 4:09 am
I have a 6 yr old Arab that was definitely neglected, possibly abused. the first three months I owned him I couldn't catch him. The man I had start him under saddle was phenomanol and gentle, and Ra overcame alot of his fears with him. Unfortunately, what i have now is a horse that is better than most veterans under saddle, but verging on psychotic on the ground. For example, the other day when I was pulling his bridle and putting his halter back on, he BLEW. I still don't know what I did differently to trigger this reaction, but he became completely terrified and spun, then took off running. He took me with him for the first 15 feet. Apparently, from what onlookers said, I was almost killed. So what do I do on the ground? And how bizarre is it that he's so scared on the ground but 100% trustworthy under saddle? I turned down a LOT of money for this horse, and my husband is not going to understand why if he hurts me again! HELP!!!!

Comment By boots foster
on November 16, 2008, 10:12 am

Why don't you try to hobble break and ground tie? It could save his life, and possibly yours too. it works brilliantly. I think Rick Gore could give you some tips on this, or perhaps a professional trainer in your area can help.

Comment By Chelsea White
on November 22, 2008, 12:21 pm

The thing is, I am a professional trainer. We haven't had a problem since then, and for the most part, he is a good boy. One of my problems I think is my lack of time to work with him. I went back over what happened a couple of times, and what I did differently was put my hand on his nose to keep his head still. I've done it a few times since then, and it really upsets him. I'm wondering if someone didn't try to cut off his air supply to make him submit in the past; I have seen ignorant horse owners do that before.

Posted By Mandie Ledbetter
on October 22, 2008, 5:37 pm
OK I have a 6 yr. Old paint who is VERY timid but loves leaving the barn orrr atleast til she cant see it any more :P She spooks at EVERYTHING and she jumps at the sound of grass blowing but will walk through water and not flinch when an 18 wheeler goes speeding by.I mean a bug can fly by her and you'd think she was gonna die.How do I work with such a timid horse?

Comment By Chelsea White
on October 26, 2008, 10:51 pm

Ride her quietly, always ask for forward, stay confident, and take her out as much as possible. Time with a confident rider can turn almost any horse into a trail star.

Comment By Mandie Ledbetter
on October 27, 2008, 7:55 pm

when you say quietly what exactly do you mean??I have an Idea what you mean but just want to make sure lol

Comment By Chelsea White
on October 27, 2008, 9:11 pm

Try really hard not to react to her reactions. Keep your heels down and you butt in the saddle, and try not to overreact with your hands. The trick is, as her lead horse, you need to show her that you are still calm and not concerned about the monsters on the trail. Let me know how she's coming along!

Comment By boots foster
on November 16, 2008, 10:07 am

Excellent advice Chelsea. I would start all over again, back to the basics, sacking out especially, getting her to walk over plastic tarps, rubbing a plastic bag all over her, tossing kids rubber balls around her, through her legs. Go slowly, quietly, don't add to her terror, and praise her with nice long strokes and gentle words every time she reacts favourably. Usually when a horse reacts like this, she has missed a step in her early training and ground work. it never hurts to refresh your horse every so often in her ground work. Always be patient, fair and kind.

good luck

Comment By Morgan deLaroque
on November 18, 2008, 3:28 pm

Hi there, I had a very similar problem with my 8yr old Connemara when we first started taking him on the trails, I found that by stopping, letting him sniff at whatever the monster was and all along reassuring him, he slowly but surely stopped caring about all the things out there that eat black horses and began to enjoy the trail! lol. I think the best thing is not to push and always stay calm and reassuring.

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