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Group Lead: Kristin Wodia
Created: Oct 17, 2008
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Need advice for training your horse??? There's always more than one way to teach or fix something, so let's help each other to figure it out. We will do our best to give tips and advice in the following: -western riding>all types -trail riding -ground work -manners -spook problems -introduceing saddle, bridle, bit, saddle blanket, turnout blanketts, cinching up, weight of a rider, etc... -better cue response -and anything else you need advice on Thanks for joinning, and I hope you enjoy!!


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Posted By Karyn Mayhew
on January 19, 2012, 12:47 am
Having some problems with my gelding, who is somewhat new to groundwork, I have him lunging need help to get thim to stop once I have him going off nicely in one direction, Also he is a very nervous horse who has had no handeling prior to me getting him, groundwork has been his main focus for 4 months. Long story short he was sent to the trainers to get started under saddle, However on this ninth ride he freaked out and just started running in the round pen once he was asked to turned, not sure how he got so freaked out....he seems not to be comfortable on how his body moves..i thought ab out driving him long before I even think about getting in the saddle with him. What are your thoughts???? his mother who is my maine mare is a wonderful horse hopes for him but getting discouraged ... Thanks

Comment By Hannah Hayes
on March 21, 2012, 6:45 pm

I always start greenies with Natural horsemanship in a round pen. It builds trust, confidence, and teaches horses skills in a way they understand.

It sounds like your horse would benefit from "Joining Up" with you.

As far as getting him to stop after going one direction here is how I train my horses to lunge; I teach them that when I point at their butt they move it away from me(its one of the Parelli 7 games) once they get this down you can send them off lunging and then point(or toss the end of your lunge line) at their butt and they swing it out and stop.

Sorry for that being very brief. I know that not everyone agrees with Parelli . If you would like me to give you more in-depth steps to what I do let me know and I'll be glad to help.

Comment By Allison Mitkowski
on April 24, 2012, 4:53 pm

Heres something very simple to try to stop/slow down you horse on the lunge. Take a BIG DEEP breathe out so he can hear it. Exageratte it. Stop doing everything you are doing and let your arms hang at your side. I know this sounds funny but when you relax and stop giving the cues to move he will understand!!

--Good luck and have fun.
Feel free to message with any questions!
Allison

Posted By Karren Vetter-shantz
on January 14, 2012, 9:53 pm
Bad lesson. Very frustrated with last two lessons. Feels like I took a lot of steps backward. Lesson -specifically learning how to transition to canter and not letting him break have been going great. Now the last two very bad and I know I did not have the focus in me. Is this normal? How do I get my confidence back?

Comment By Hannah Hayes
on March 21, 2012, 6:53 pm

This is completely normal. Everyone has bad days, weeks, even months. I've had weeks that one day I was jumping 3ft with good equitation, to the next day I fell off over a jump 4 times.

Don't give up, things will get better. If you need to, take a step back and work on something your already good at. That way you and your horse are in your comfort zone and can build back up the confidence that "Hey, I can do this!" Then when your ready work on the canter transitions again.

Remember not to over do the canter transitions. Practice does make perfect but it does no one any good if you keep getting frustrated each time you repeat it. Work on them for a few minutes then go back to something you already can do. Then go back and work on them a bit more.

Always end a lesson on a happy note. Sometimes when I have a bad ride I just hop off and walk with my horse. You'll calm down, have time to think about things, and bond with your horse.

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Posted By Alyssa Williams
on March 18, 2010, 1:50 pm
Hi everyone! I have a paint mare who I can't get to do flying lead changes. I have gott her to the point where she will change leads in a split second of slowing to a trot. But I need her to do flying lead changes. Any idea's how to get her to do them?

Comment By Jessica Poier
on November 11, 2011, 1:43 pm

i agree with christy p. counter canter is a very important part of learning to lead change properly. i find that going in figure eights, staying on the same lead(so that your mare is counter cantering on one side of the eight, and not on the other) is a good start, when she can do that while staying well balanced, and responsive, then its time to start asking for her to change leads. its usually easier to ask them when they are on a curve, rather than in straight line, and make sure she has a little bit more speed the first few times you ask, that should help with getting her to not break to a trot. Also, make sure you ask with all parts of your body. when you are asking her to change, raise your inside hand a little, kick firmly with your outside leg, and shift your seat towards the outside as well. i also find that having a verbal cue helps as well if your horse is responsive to that :)

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Posted By molly groves
on May 5, 2011, 1:24 pm
I am having a problem with having my horse picking up the correct lead after a straight jump. If I jump on a diagnol then she'll pick up the lead in the direction I look. She knows how to do flying changes, but if she picks up the wrong lead after the jump and I ask her to switch she gets confused and frustrated and usually just ends up speeding up and not switching. Any advice would help : )

Posted By Rachel Smith
on February 16, 2011, 6:48 pm
Hi im new I'm not a very experienced rider but I do know a lot about horses but I was wondering that when the mare I ride bucks sometimes when I tighten the girth is she just one of those horses who doesn't want to wear them or is it some kind of injury or abdominal issue?

Comment By Laurie Baird
on March 23, 2011, 12:58 pm

it sounds like she might be cinchy, whether it causes her pain, like pinching of the skin. or someone has caused her pain in the past, I would take your time, rub your hand up and down where the cinch would go.. slowly tighten then loosen, let her know it's not going to hurt her.. eventually after many times of this she should get better. you will need patience, and do this as much as possible even if your not going to ride, half cinch up with hand rubbing, take off saddle, next day cinch up tad tighter.. it will be a process. sometimes if you lift the front leg as well it helps to adjust cinch so it isn't pinching.
Hope this helps..

Comment By Rachel Smith
on March 24, 2011, 3:25 pm

Thanks im going to try it cross your fingers this horse is a stubborn mule haha :)

Comment By Katie Helfrich
on March 30, 2011, 12:36 am

Another good way to avoid and/or get rid of her cinchyness is to tighten it just enough to keep it on, then walk her around for 5 or 10 minutes, tighten it a little more, walk her again, etc.

This allows them to get used to the pressure without feeling so constricted. It shouldn't take long before you are tightening it enough in two or three sessions. Good luck! :)

Posted By Rachel Smith
on March 24, 2011, 3:40 pm
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Posted By Laurie Baird
on September 9, 2010, 10:35 am
Hello, I need some advice. I bought my paint 7 months ago, he was great when I tested him for buying, brought him home, gave him time to adjust, started ground work with him, rode 2 or 3 times, even by ourselves though he was nervous... then he started moving alot when trying to mount, did the backing up thing still do seems to help after a bit, sometimes he will stand there nicely, other times he will move, or buck just as I am about to throw my leg over the saddle. I have tried mounting on both sides, right side is not as sensitive as left, but once he gets what you are doing acts the same. I have tried faking him out, just jumping up and down by his side, putting my foot in stirrup and going half on and half off, leaving on a good note, not always mounting or riding, and nothing seems to stay with him, is this a trust issue? Has something in his past happened that I may not be able to fix? The previous owner told me he has always been like that, and she had him pasture bound ,, no riding for 2 years.. I love him, and am not going to give up on him, but I need some advice on what else I can try that will be positive for him and me... for instance, I did ground work with him today, before I tried to ride him, he showed sign of not wanting even the saddle pad on him but accepted. once saddle and bit was on different story, he looks back to see what I am doing, if I raise my foot he tenses, and moves.. once foot is in stirrup he moves ,turns toward me, circles, backs, then I make him back up,,, over and over till he will allow me to mount, and today was just about on till he bucked and threw me off. I of course didnt' give up there, I worked with him patiently till he let me go up and down from ground to hanging over saddle, but not mounting , I waited for him to totally stand and accept me before I ended for the day... help what can I do, and sorry so long..


Comment By Pookie Dickens
on October 5, 2010, 5:13 pm

From what you've described it sounds like your mounting from the ground. Right? I'd bet his withers are sore from the torquing that occurs as you get on. This would also explain why he's also slightly better when you mount from the off side. If it's uncharactistic for him to "misbehave" (and it sounds like it is) then he's not misbehaving at all but rather trying to tell you (in the only way he has at his disposal) that your mounting up is hurting him. The bucking especially indicates pain, in this sort of situation. I've worked with many horses with almost exact scenarios, and every time we found it was sore withers from the owner mounting from the ground. It's especially painful if the owner is heavy, takes a long time getting up into the saddle, and the horse has somewhat to very prominent withers.

Get a tall mounting block or teach him to stand next to the fence or the wheel well of your trailer for you to get on, so that you can get on without using the stirrups at all. If this reaction (or anticipation, really) has been going on for a while, then it will take a while for him to be convinced that his withers won't be in pain every time you go to get on. If I were you, what I'd do would be to first of all palpate his withers carefully, to see if you can detect soreness, trying to torque them as if it were the saddle pulling on them. Then I'd give him a break from riding and work on ground work. I'd start him back up using a tall mounting block or the fence, bareback. If you'd be apprehensive about getting on bareback (or his withers are really high!) then go ahead with the saddle. By the way, I'm assuming that the saddle fits him correctly, as all that you described also are classic behavior symptoms of an ill fitting saddle. So if you aren't absolutely certain the saddle fits him well, start with that assessment, using an experienced saddle fitter to help you out.

Comment By Laurie Baird
on October 11, 2010, 5:09 pm

thankyou for answering, I have palpated his withers from the ground as if I was going to mount, and he doesn't show signs of pain, or soreness. I have recently been using a mounting block in order to get on, and he has been doing much better, has moved a few times, but with consistency he is now not moving at all. He does have high withers, and he previous owner was a bit heavier than I, I am noticing since he now has a job to do, and is figuring out he is not just going to be in the pasture like he was for 2 yrs, with his previous owner, he is coming around. we do alot of ground work to gain respect, and so far for the past 5 times he has been standing totally still for mounting. I have ridden him bareback many times, and he acted the same as if he was in saddle , till you mounted then beautiful. I am seeing a huge improvement, between ground work techniques, and the mounting block.. Also,, when I use mounting block, I am not just mounting, I put foot in stirrup , bounce a bit, lean over saddle, then maybe get on, so he realizes these actions won't hurt him.
Thanks again for your advice, I will keep it all in mind.

Posted By Abbey Good
on August 30, 2009, 9:47 am
I love riding my horse I'm leasing, Tinkerbell. But when were in the arena, i always do the same thing over and over-walk around it twice to warm her up a bit, trot her around it twice and canter her round 2-3 times. Then I atempt to do barrels and then go back to the barn. I also take her on a trail ride before we go in the arena. I don't take lessions, either. I enjoy longing her but I can't really be on her and longe her myself at the same time. Shes a 10 year old registerd Quarter Horse. I love her so much! Also, I'm moving out to Idaho soon, and I was wondering if you guys think I should buy her and try and take her with me (we don't own a horse trailer as this is the first lease I've done, and I dont think my parents can affored one just yet), or just wait untill I get out there to find a horse. I was told a few days ago when i was brushing her that "I should buy her because she really trusts me and it would be hard for her if i left because they wont love her here like you do." I'm really torn. She came from Texas to Michigan, so she is a good traveler. Any tips would be GREATLY apreciated.

Thanks,
Abbey

Comment By Hannah Rivera
on November 18, 2009, 5:53 pm

i think you should wait. you may find a horse that will do more.

Comment By Katie Helfrich
on June 29, 2010, 3:30 pm

If you like this horse and she does good for you, get her. It's hard to find a horse that is perfect for you.

Comment By Pookie Dickens
on October 5, 2010, 5:22 pm

It's always a safer bet to buy a horse whom you know well and have been riding and with whom you get along well, as it sounds like you two do. It's also good that you've know her for a while so are familiar with her health condition. Buying a horse whose history you don't know is always a risk. I'm guessing this would be your first horse (as an owner). 10 is a good age, and it sounds like you are able to ride her well. As Katie said, it's hard to find a horse that's perfect for you, and if you really get along and it's an option, go for it. Just hire a good professional shipper.

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