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This is my horse Tiv. Weird name, I know lol. I bought him as a barrel horse with some problems and after a year of working with him we might need to start thinking about doing a different event with him. I was wondering on what you people thought on his conformation, how he is set and what kind of event would be the best for his conformation.
I was hoping to do jumping with him, preferably show jumping, but I wanted to get a few opinions on his conformation first.
i'm not a conformation expert so i can't assess all the little details, but there are a couple of things that stand out to me when i look at his picture..
1) is he standing on a slope? if not, then he is VERY downhill (does he require a crouper?) i don't know that it would affect his jumping career, but it might make his canter uncomfortable for you..
2) he definitely needs more muscles (in his neck and bum), you should work on developing his topline, and get his hind quarters bigger (in the world of english riding, the more muscular the hind quarters, the better. work on lots of collection and extension, and do some work on hills if you can
3) he has a slightly long back, typically in jumpers a shorter back is ideal, but i'm sure it's not a deal breaker
conformation isn't necessarily going to decide a horse's career, as long as he is sound you can start getting him into jumping (take it slow though) and see how he progresses
He looks short in his front hooves, front and back should match. Also interesting brand. Not sure if show jumping is his game but start small and work up, he'll let you know if he likes it or not. Have you thought about eventing? Has he got good speed and stamina?
He looks VERY downhill. I'm not sure if you took the photo when he was standing downhill though. You want a wither that is a little bit higher than the horses bum. He's got a long body, and the neck needs more muscle. He has a nice shoulder slope. If he's a QH, I would say that it should be a little bit more sloped for a general confo, but with doing something like jumping it would be fine, since it doesn't require hard stops and such that would be hard on a gently angled shoulder. I think that he's got a great looking hip on him, but he is definitely in need of more muscle on his topline, shoulders, and neck.
Give it a try with jumping. You can't base everything off a conformation, but see if he likes it, and go from there. Even the best horses in the world will have the flaws that we can see in our own horses! As long as your horse enjoys it and they'll be safe while doing it, that's always the best choice!
Thank you all for the info.
Yes he does look downhill in this picture but he's definitely not that bad in real life. He might be downhill by half and inch, if that. I'm not very good at taking pictures either so that probably didn't help lol. His lope is pretty smooth and I don't have to put excess pressure on my heels to stay upright.
His back is a little long but if you measure out from his poll-to-his-withers it's the same as his withers-to-his-croup. So it's proportionate (in some event conformations) but I know that his longer back will make him weaker when he gets older.
His feet do need to be trimmed right now though, and we're working on growing his heel out. He's standing in some nice soft dirt though so it's covering up some of his hooves.
Also, I agree that he need more muscle on his topline but to be honest I'm not to sure if I can. I ride him in a german martingale half of the week (depending on what we're doing) and the other time he has good collection on his own, without any kind of martingale. I can also try getting my fiance to take a picture of him when we're riding just so I know what his topline is like.
What I see is that he's very "quarter horse" type. He has a straight shoulder and haunches so my guess is he doesn't have a very forward reaching stride. Having said that, you can do what ever you want with him, and if you want to jump, jump. He may not ever jump the huge fences but you can certainly do plenty of things with him. He's not built like an open shouldered TB so don't expect him to be one. But he's a nicely proportioned boy, so enjoy whatever he can do.